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RFK: So I would say this is Armageddon. It is the apocalyptic forces of
ignorance and greed and totalitarianism. And this is the final battle. We need
to win this one.
James: Welcome friends. James Corbett here. Corbett reports. In a
conversation that is being recorded on the 19th of November 2021 here in
Japan, and throughout the past couple of years of this generated crisis, I
have received, as you might imagine, many, many requests to do some sort
of deep dive or exposé on the face of this generated crisis in the United
States. Anthony Fauci. But as a Canadian in Japan, I have never felt it is that
I am best situated to do such a deep dive. Luckily, I can do the next best
thing, actually an even better thing. I can bring on someone who has done
exactly just such an exposé and has just released that to the public. I am
talking about, of course, thought criminal extraordinaire and proud member
of the disinformation dozen. I say that ironically, of course, Robert F
Kennedy Jr of Children's Health Defense.org who has just written The Real
Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma and the Global War on Democracy
and Public Health. Mr. Robert F Kennedy, Jr. Thank you very much for
joining us on the program today.
RFK: And thank you for having me, James, and also thank you for all of
your extraordinary work for keeping the public informed so that we can
actually maybe restore some democracy to the world.
James: Well, I appreciate that. Let's start by talking about the sort of the
cultural moment that we're in, in which I note as we're recording this
conversation, it's the 18th of November there in the United States as we are
talking. This book The Real Anthony Fauci, is currently the number three
bestseller on Amazon right now, which people should not be lining the
pockets of Jeff Bezos, obviously, but I think speaks to the fact that
obviously something is happening in the zeitgeist right now where this
information, speaking obviously specifically about Anthony Fauci, but in a
similar way, I would say to my Who is Bill Gates documentary using Fauci
as a hub from which we can explore many spokes of the crisis that we're
living through right now. Obviously, people are hungry for this information
at the moment. But first, can you just speak to why you decided to write this
book specifically about Fauci?
RFK: But I think for the same reasons you've been exploring what we've
seen over the past 20 months, a coup d'etat against liberal democracy
globally. And one of the key players is kind of medical cartel and medical
technocracy. There's a there's an entire coalition of what I think we are all
starting to see sinister forces, pharmaceutical companies, the intelligence
agencies, medical bureaucracies, social media titans and the mainstream
media that are all wrapped up in the military. If I didn't mention them that
are all kind of wrapped up and the obliteration of constitutional rights
globally and the subversion, the use of a health crisis to impose totalitarian
controls. And one of the ways they've been able to get rid of it is that it's
kind of avuncular presence is the face of the technocracy, in the face of that
of the militia and the obliteration of constitutional rights as avuncular,
steady, authoritative medical figure. Anthony Fauci, who is and the leading
pan germ of the medical establishment for 50 years, he's kind of the J. Edgar
Hoover of Public Health without J. Edgar Hoover’s a bad reputation. And he
has been the trusted adviser to six presidents and is a person who is widely
applauded. And his opinions, as little as his medical opinions, as little sense
as they make, are treated literally as gospel by the mainstream press, the
social media globally. And many, unfortunately, people of my from my
political party, from the Democratic Party, who really see him as almost a
demigod.
And because of my peculiar history, which I have spent 40 years litigating
on the issue of regulatory capture. I wrote over 500 lawsuits against
pharmaceutical companies and big corporations, and probably a quarter of
the lawsuits that I brought have been against government agencies like the
EPA that are subject to this dynamic of regulatory capture, which is very,
very well documented in peer reviewed publications and the popular press.
But it's the mechanism by which regulatory agencies become the sock
puppet of the industries that they're supposed to regulate. They become
really kind of subsidiaries of those industries. And Tony Fauci is kind of the
spearhead of an agency that has experienced regulatory capture in a way that
is on steroids. And part of the reason is that these unprecedented financial
entanglements between the pharmaceutical companies and the agencies that
they regulate that we do not see in the environmental space. EPA is a
captured agency. It does the bidding of big oil, big coal, the chemical
industry, the big industrial agriculture. And I spent a lot of time suing them
when they did sweetheart deals to issue permits that were illegal. But in the
pharmaceutical and the medical sphere, you have these financial links. For
example, FDA receives 45% of its annual budget from pharmaceutical
companies. The NIH has thousands of pharmaceutical patents, and the CDC
spends about $4.9 billion a year out of its $12 billion budget, so about 40%,
close to 40% buying and then distributing vaccines. So it really is the front
man. It is the biggest vaccine company in the world. And the metrics that are
used within the agencies to measure of whether or not you're going to get
promoted and whether you're going to get advanced or whether you're going
to get your bonuses and salary raises, almost all of them have to do with
how well you promote vaccine uptake. People do not get rewarded in those
agencies for finding problems with vaccines. They get rewarded for
covering up problems. And then some of the agencies directly profit from
vaccine sales. For example, as I said, NIH owns thousands of medical
patents, including half the patent for the Moderna vaccine. So it stands to
make that agency make billions and billions, Tony Fauci's agency, billions
and billions of dollars, if they succeed in getting that vaccine approved and
mandated, etc.. And Tony Fauci was able to choose, to designate four of his
high level employees who each get individual patent shares, and they will
collect $150,000 a year for life if the Moderna vaccine is approved, which it
has been. So it's kind of like I said, it's like if EPA got half of its budget on
the coal industry or from the oil industry, and that the amount of money that
went into his budget was based upon sales of coal and oil would really
contaminate, it subsume the regulatory and the mercantile impulses and the
commercial impulses would subsume the regulatory functions and that's
exactly what's happened. They are no longer regulatory agencies. They are
not public health agencies. They are vaccine and pharmaceutical companies.
And Tony Fauci, as you know, his agency in particular no longer does
public health. And he doesn't do public health. He does pharmaceutical
promotions. He will never talk about the improvements in public health that
have occurred since he came into office 50 years ago. And it's not a good
story. We've gone from 6% of the American public having chronic disease
when he entered to by 1986, he became the boss, the big boss in 86 and
11.6% or 11.8% of Americans had chronic disease and today, 54%. So, and
by chronic disease, I mean neurological diseases, ADHD, ADHD speech, a
language like Tourette syndrome, narcolepsy, ASD, autism, allergic disease
like peanut allergies, food allergies, asthma, anaphylaxis, and then the
autoimmune diseases like juvenile diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis. When
Anthony Fauci took over that agency nobody had even heard of those
diseases, really. You know, one in 10,000 people my age have autism, one
in every 34 children, people my kids age have full blown autism. And Tony
Fauci, his job is to make sure that doesn't happen find the sources of those
chronic diseases. Where did food allergies suddenly appear in 1989? Why
do we see all these people with celiac disease and peanut allergies beginning
in that year? Why don't we see rheumatoid arthritis and juvenile diabetes?
Clearly, there is an environmental toxin.
Genes do not cause epidemic. They may provide the vulnerability, but you
need an environmental toxin and his job is to identify the toxins so that we
can then eliminate it. That's what he does. And as a result, we've seen this
dramatic explosion, a decline in public health. We have the worst infant
mortality rate of the top 25 nations. When he came into office, we were with
healthiest people. Today, we're the unhealthiest people in the industrialized
world. We're 79th in terms of the overall public health metrics. We consume
three times the pharmaceutical products of any other Western nation. We
pay the highest prices and we are by far the sickest. And it's largely, as I
show in the book, Tony Fauci is responsible. He's not the solely responsible.
He, however, could have prevented the whole thing. His job was to identify
those problems and lead the way to do eliminating them. And he could have
done that. And that's not what he's doing. He's turned that agency into an
incubator for pharmaceutical products. Between 2009 and 2016, or some
240 products approved by FDA new drugs. That all came out of his shop.
He has a seven he has a $6.1 billion budget, which he distributes to colleges
and universities, to drug research for various diseases.
He has another 1.7 billion that comes from the military that essentially is to
do bioweapons research and that's why he had to do the gain of function. He
was locked into that because 68% of his personal salary comes from doing
that military bioweapons research, which used to be called dual use. It's
illegal for anybody to do bio weapons development and manufacturing, but
there's an exemption in the 1972 Act for research and development that is
for dual use, in other words, it's research that could be used for useful for
developing bio weapons, but it also is useful for vaccines. So if you can say
I'm doing vaccine research, then you can do bioweapons research. Back to
our bioweapons research. And that's what he did. After the anthrax attacks in
2001, the Pentagon and the CIA began pouring money into bioweapons
research, and the Pentagon was nervous about doing it itself because of the
ban, the prohibition on it. So those cohorts began funneling money to Tony
Fauci to do it because he could legitimately say, well, I'm not really doing
bioweapons research, I'm doing vaccine research. And then a bunch of his
little bugs escaped in 2014 from his lab and from other people's labs.
Three hundred scientists signed a letter to President Obama asking
them to stop Tony Fauci. And that's when he began funneling a lot of this
money to the Wuhan lab and partnering with Chinese military scientists and
teaching them not only how to how to develop, how to take bat
coronaviruses and make them transmissible and pathogenic and virulent to
human beings.
One of his chief scientists, Ralph Baric from the University of North
Carolina, had developed a technique called the no-see-um technique
[U.S. Patent 7618802] for hiding the engineering evidence of the human
engineering of those viruses. And Baric, who is funded by Fauci, then
shared that research with Sheng Jin, the Chinese scientist, his Bat Lady, and
was able to master the technique. These people are all publishing on this
stuff and they weren't embarrassed about it and the Chinese were very, very
open that this was weapons research. They didn't pretend it was vaccine
research. They were like, this is weapons research and we are glad we're
able to do it. And Fauci was giving them millions and millions of dollars.
The biggest contributor was the CIA, which gave about $69 million through
USAID to do that kind of research. And then the Pentagon through DARPA,
which gave about $39 million to do that, and the three of them were all
working in tandem, U.S. agencies with smaller amounts coming from
Homeland Security and the other agencies, and they were teaching the
Chinese how to how to weaponize bat viruses.
James: Well, let's stop for a moment because describing Anthony Fauci as
the J. Edgar Hoover of Public Health is such a perfect description that I'm
going to steal it, because I think it gets to the heart of what we're discussing
here, which is that this man has somehow or other managed to take over a
relative backwater of the Washington bureaucracy. As you point out, in
1984, who was talking about NIAID? No one, it was a nothing agency. It is
now …
RFK: Because infectious disease had basically stopped causing mortalities
after the Spanish flu. And the Spanish flu was not a flu as Tony Fauci
himself wrote in 2008. He really documented the fact it was a
bacteriological infection. So there's no reason to be scared of it anymore
because it can be obliterated in two days by antibiotics. So really in this
century you've seen the complete decline of infectious disease mortality. By
1980 infectious disease mortalities were such an infinitesimal threat to
Americans that the Reagan administration was talking about abolishing
NIAID and CDC here and in those agencies they were talking about, we got
to find a pandemic in order to justify our existence. And I show in the book
again and again they fabricated pandemics. They fabricated a flu pandemic
in 1976 and in 2005, an avian flu pandemic, swine flu in 2009, complete
fabrication. And in 2005, one person died in a pandemic and they spent $40
billion on vaccines and had mandatory vaccine programs globally. And they
do this again and I show again and again. Zika was a phony, Tony Fauci,
phony pandemic. Zika was completely not associated with microcephaly and
he went to Congress and said, like kids to be born with small heads and he
got $2.2 billion, his agency to get a vaccine and as it turns out it was no
threat to anybody and definitely did not cause microcephaly. It was all
fabricated. And he's done this again and again and again, the same playbook
to use it to clamp down totalitarian controls and to sell pharmaceutical
products that use these fake pandemics. And I'm not saying COVID is fake
because it isn’t, but the response to it has not been a medical response. It's
been a militarized and a monetized response that is very, very much pre-
calculated.
James: Well, let's get into the specifics of how this type of scare can be
manipulated, because that's something that we need to wrap our minds
around to understand what's happening right now. And in Chapter four of
your book, in fact, several chapters deal with Fauci's involvement in the
AIDS crisis and AZT and that scandal. But in Chapter four of your book,
you specifically go through how the AIDS crisis that Fauci was at the helm
of there in the 1980s was essentially the template for what was to come
during the generated crisis of the past two years. And you talk about
pumping up pandemic fears to lay the groundwork for larger budgets and
greater powers, incriminating and elusive pathogen, fanning hysteria by
exaggerating disease trends. Transmissibility periodically stoking waning
fear levels by warning of mutant super strains and future surges, etc., etc..
There's a list of about 20 different ways in which the AIDS crisis can be
seen as a template for what has happened over the past couple of years. Can
you elaborate a bit about that?
RFK: One of the things that he did during the AIDS crisis, he captured, he
was able to go through a struggle with National Cancer Institute because the
initial signal of AIDS was Kaposi's sarcoma, which is a cancer. And so the
AIDS went to the National Cancer Institute, and he was able to use studies
that show that maybe it's a viral infection caused by HIV, to get control of
all that new funding. And he went up to billions of dollars and that really
made him the boss. But what he did, he didn't know how to develop drugs,
and the NIAID no capacity at that time to develop drugs. National Cancer
Institute did, had new big labs, and it was developing cancer drugs. His
agency didn't know how, so it really had to rely on a private pharmaceutical
company, which is now Glaxo Wellcome-SmithKline Beecham. Welcome
had a drug that appeared to kill HIV. It killed HIV because it killed
everything that it touched. It was a really toxic chemotherapy drug. It was so
toxic, it killed all the mice in the chemotherapy experiment and the guy who
developed it actually threw it on a junk pile and didn't even bother with it
because he said this can never be used. Chemotherapy, you give it for two
weeks and it kills every cell in the DNA in human bodies. But you're hoping
that it kills the tumor first before it kills the person. It was Toni Fauci’s idea
to give that chemotherapy to people for life, which, of course, it means their
life was going to be extremely short, which is exactly what happened.
And he had to shorten the experiment, the clinical trial, because within six
weeks it was killing everybody and the clinical trial and the way he kept
them alive was by pumping the people in the in the AZT group with daily in
some cases blood transfusions and not giving the transfusions to the HIV
infected people in the placebo group. Transfusions kept them alive, allowed
him to claim this was a miracle drug, and he got it approved at record time.
It was a rush emergency use approval. And at the end, he declares it's a fact
that it's unethical to continue the trials and we're going to unblind them and
give it to all the people in the placebo group, exactly what he did with the
vaccines. By that time there where community doctors all over America that
were finding repurposed drugs that were really effective against the
symptoms of AIDS, things that actually killed people, the pneumonia and all
of these other symptoms that killed people. And he had to in order to get his
idea approved for emergencies, he had to kill those drugs. So he suppressed
them. He punished doctors who were… he wouldn't he wouldn't allow FDA
to approve any of them. He would not allow Fast-Track approval. My uncle
was fighting with them and fighting with them. Ted Kennedy, who was the
chair of the health committee to force him to do a Fast-Track approvals for
those drugs these wonderful community doctors were using.
And what happened is people who had AIDS were quickly recognizing that
AZT was killing their friends who got on it. And they were desperate to get
these other drugs. And so they had these buyers clubs that popped up all
over the country. And the movie Dallas Buyers Club was originally written
about Tony Fauci as the villain, because he was the one that was preventing
all these people from getting their hands on these working medications
because there was no profits in them for the drug industry. And so you had
these buyers clubs where people are going to Mexico and they go to Europe
or they go to Canada and they get these drugs and bring them back and
distribute them to people. And so it's the same thing he did now with
suppressing ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, monoclonal steroids all of the
things that we know are very effective against COVID, anti-inflammatories,
the anticoagulants, the antibiotics that work actually work, vitamin D, the
zinc and all those things get suppressed. So there is only one solution. Back
then it was AZT for AIDS. Today, it's the vaccine. It's always a deadly
experimental drug that wipes out disease and he has to abbreviate the
clinical trials and declare it's a success.That's just one of the times he's done
that again and again and again and again throughout his long career.
James: Right. As you say in the book, it's a well-worn dog eared playbook
that he's playing from precisely because it has worked in the past and it's
continuing to work to this day. As you say, his avuncular attitude, and it sort
of deflects all the criticism that never seems to really land on him. But you
paint a very vivid picture in this book of a particular instance of how Fauci
has wielded his power over his fiefdom to suppress dissent against him. And
that was the story of Dr. Peter Duesberg. Tell people about how the career of
Peter Duesberg was completely derailed by Fauci.
RFK: Well, Duesberg was probably was the most brilliant virologist in the
world. He'd won more NIH awards than anybody else. He'd won virtually
every award that could be won in virology. And he was clearly going to win
the Nobel Prize for finding an oncogene, which is a cancer causing gene and
which he discovered. And it launched an entire discipline in virology. And
then he himself went back and looked at it and he said, this doesn't make
any sense from an evolutionary point of view. And he wrote the paper that
exploded his own theory and lost him the Nobel Prize. But he didn't care
about anything except integrity. And he was really, and he is still alive, this
incredible and highly, highly respected scientist. And he did not believe that
the deaths that were being attributed to AIDS from 81 to 84, he did not
believe that they were being caused by HIV. He believed that they were
largely the result of poppers and a whole constellation of drugs, of heroin,
speed, methadrine, cocaine that were part of the abstract imposed on a gay
lifestyle. And if you looked at it, what he was saying is now accepted
science. It's Kaposi's sarcoma, which was AIDS, is no longer even listed as a
symptom of AIDS. It's now understood that it is an environmental result and
that it's caused by poppers, which is Pentyl nitrite, which was a ubiquitous
drug that was used in the gay community. It was sold in every gay bar. And
at the end of the night, the gay bars would declare last call for alcohol, last
call for poppers. It was sold in the bathhouses and the nightclubs and
everything else. And all of the people, 100% of the people originally
diagnosed with AIDS were popper users. And so he, Duesberg, did this
exhaustive research and published a groundbreaking paper and then became
a huge critic of Fauci. And I show in my book Fauci was able to use
strategically placed money, he has control of all of this research, $6.1 billion
in research grants to get the universities to shut him out, to get him denied
all awards, invitations to conferences, to punish his graduate students so
nobody would take his courses and to destroy his career. And he succeeded
in doing that. He really isolated and he made Duesberg a pariah. And he
refused to debate him. He refused. He silenced him. And that's the problem.
Whether Duesberg was correct or not, I don't reach a conclusion on that
specifically. I don't know. But Duesberg’s arguments make a lot of sense if
you read them and his book is absolutely persuasive. That doesn't mean…
there were tens of thousands of articles on AIDS and HIV, and I haven't read
them all, so I'm not eligible or competent to make a judgment. But what I do
know is that science is dynamic and there ought to be debate. And at any
time somebody says there's a consensus in science, that person is a liar and
they're manipulating because the phrase scientific consensus is oxymoronic.
I was part of the legal team on the Monsanto case where we won $2.2
billion. We won three cases in a row. And then we settled with Roundup.
And in that case, Monsanto came to court with top scientists in the country
from Harvard and Stanford, and they made very, very convincing
presentations on what they said was consensus science. And then we
brought all our scientists from Harvard and Stanford who were looking at
the same data and coming up with a different conclusion. And under cross-
examination, we were able to prove that their scientists were wrong, are
right, and persuade a jury to give these huge judgments.
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And so medicine is about consultations, about debate. It's about
conversation. It's not about one guy standing up there and say, this is the
answer. And if we want good policies for everything in a democracy and we
need it free flow of information and we need ideas to triumph in the
marketplace. And what Fauci has succeeded in doing in this country is really
shutting down debate completely. And this extraordinary capacities that he's
developed, relationships with the media, the social media, and the whole
army, the medical cartel and intelligence agencies to literally shut down
debate on any issue that he wants to simply proclaim as truth.
James: Let's move on to another part. I know we have limited time today,
and I want to cover what you talk about in Chapter seven of your book,
because I'm sure everyone by this point has heard, and if not, they should at
